[Michelangelo]

Went by the local shop and saw this, the first time I've seen one. It was sweet! A few questions:

How does it differ from the 640 SM? A bit more cc's I assume, but is the bodywork different or the same. I noticed the 660 has a tail light but is there a hookup for a headlight? I realize it's a competition bike as well but if I can hook up a headlight I can do many things with it? I forgot to check if it had an electric start. What else is the difference between the two?

I think I'm in love!

 

[PowerFiend]

We in the states don't get any of the LC4's this year and only got the 625 last year. KTM marketing department -> :2hard

 

[Michelangelo]

Say what? So you're saying the 660 SMC is a figment of my imagination or what? I was searching online and found specs for this bike, it even had the headlights and signals!!

How could they have it there at the shop if they weren't supposed to have them? It's even for sale!

 

[Doowop]

yep, 2 of them were for sl ehere in Colorado. 2 in the whole state!!! that's nuts! It's not your imagination. They just sell them as street bikes in Europe.
lot better than the 640. More power, no starter, only kick, FCR41 Stock....

 

[PowerFiend]

Say what? So you're saying the 660 SMC is a figment of my imagination or what? I was searching online and found specs for this bike, it even had the headlights and signals!!

How could they have it there at the shop if they weren't supposed to have them? It's even for sale!

Dude, chill! :hammer: I have never heard that they were ever available in the US, this includes no one with one on any of the supermoto boards, KTMtalk.com, and statements from my KTM dealer that they aren't available. Check KTMUSA.com, they specifically state that the 640's and 660's are not for USA distribution. Furthermore, you don't list your location, so I was assuming you were not in the US and I was just venting that they were not available here.

Now, I suggest you go snatch it up. The 625SMC's last year were in short supply, so you could get an outrageous amount for a 660. Unless of course the dealer knows what he has and jacked the price up already.

 

[McMucker]

its the only LC4 i would have

good bit lighter, kick start only, FCR carb, alloy sub frame, competition exhaust, no rear pegs, diff swingarm and much more

quite a different beast indeed

I wouldn't beleive any of the official specs you see online either. they make it out to be less powerful than the 625/640. Its to do with emmision laws :FU:

 

[Chrome-CRF]

Oh yeah, the 660 is a real beast. I heard that a dealer in Cali bought 3 of them from KTM and then resold them. One ended up on Ebay and sold for 8500. It is supossedly 80+hp and very light :thumbup: . I have a line on one right now so don't be surprised to see one in my garage very soon :Funny:

 

[Michelangelo]

So then other than displacement and the lack of lights, why is it better than the LC 4, especially the one you have posted right there. It's a good looking bike!

It was no lie, the 660 was sitting there in the flesh. I sat on it and thought it was the trickets bike ever!! Wow, is it that much better than the 640/625s? Powerwise, I have a hard time believing 80 HP. I might try to get it for a ride. It looks as though it's a demo as the tires are a little worn.

I'm located in Las Cruces, NM. The guy said about $6000.

 

[Michelangelo]

Was it my imagination or was the 660 shorter than the 640/625? Is there a diff in seat and suspension heights on the LC4/s depending on wether they're the dual or the sm's?

 

[FTC]

its pretty much the factory race version of an lc4 based bike. and from what i understand they are very different from the streetable lc4 bike.

 

[Chrome-CRF]

The 660 is based off the LC4 motor but is really built up. They are no lie 80+hp motors. They have tons of carbon fiber and aluminum/titanium parts which really drops some weight. This one is hands down the best looking 660 I have seen with the dual Akrapovics :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

 

[brian]

Ohh man I'm sportin wood now........... :bowdown:

 

[SMR]

I remember a couple years back when KTM released their "built" supermoto...just a little after the Husqvarna NOX was out. Looked just like the one above, with a single exhaust. It was a 70-80hp beast as well, carbon everything...but the price tag was close to 18-20 grand. Hate to tip that over. Somehow I'm thinking these that we drool over are not the 6k version.

Also, the dealers I talked to at the time, while they didn't have them in stock, seemed willing to order up one from the factory if I were so inclined. Send an email to KTMs USA (I think Temecula) office. I bet they will get back to you if your serious.

Last thought...If someone was driven in that direction, I'd say buy a used KTM with tags, then order up one of those tasty crate motors and drop it in.

 

[Chrome-CRF]

Yeah there is a few versions of the 660. The one you guys are talking about is the 660smc which is the street legal version they sell in Europe. The race 660's are the 660sms and 660smr. I believe the sms has a single pipe and the smr has the duals and a little more hp :bowdown:

 

[Michelangelo]

From what I read on a discussion of a different page, most of the 660s that had been dynoed were making only mid to high 50's. I dont' know what this talk of 80hp is about but I'm more inclined to believe actually experience on the dynos as opposed to wishful thinking.

 

[brian]

If you look at the KTM site just take the power in KW's and multiply by 1.34
some of their HP ratings seem low ??? :hmmm: yea prolly emisions

 

[Flyin2low]

How about 80 hp at the crank/ 55 at the rear?

 

[SMR]

From what I read on a discussion of a different page, most of the 660s that had been dynoed were making only mid to high 50's. I dont' know what this talk of 80hp is about but I'm more inclined to believe actually experience on the dynos as opposed to wishful thinking.

The 70-80hp number is only for their factory special built bike (and most likely that number was at the crank), and I doubt there are many if any around...you paid for the pleasure too, as I mentioned, the bike was close to 18-$20,000. I'll see if I can find the old story/link on it.

The stock, more affordable, 660s I've seen advertised over the pond have always seemed to have been listed with about 60hp.

 

[Chrome-CRF]

Man you guys are killing me :lol: . Okay let me explain it. The first picture I posted is a a 660sms with dyno proven 82hp at the rear wheel from the dealer in Cali I talked to. The second picture is a 660smr that is Thierry Van den Bosch's factory race bike that is all tricked out with every part imaginable. It is more like 85hp. I'll see if I can find the dyno run of them. The one you guys are thinking about is the street legal 660smc which has all the emmissions crap on it and is very detuned compared to the race motors. They make about 60hp on the dyno. Ok, check this out HERE This is a factory 525 motor made into a 610 that makes 73hp. That is a difference from about 53hp stock to 73hp modified. Now take the 660 motor which is 60hp stock and add 20hp to it :bowdown:

 

[Chrome-CRF]

Here is the ad that was attached to the bike when they were selling it

Scott Russell's Factory KTM Supermotard. This is the real deal. Sold as a new bike (dealer demo) we are offering the bike ridden by Scott Russell. It is a KTM 660 SMS factory bike. Don't mistake this for a LC4 625 or 640, as they share almost nothing in common. This has the Factory 660 motor rated at 82 h.p. 115 K.g. Titanium Akropovic exhaust, full factory works WP suspension (nitrated forks, four way adjustable shock etc.). It has a factory frame with eccentric shock mount and is a wet sump motor so the overflow hoses are plumbed into the frame and drain in to what would be the oil filter on a normal LC4, Brembo GP master cylinder, Brembo billet gold series brakes, Carbon fiber every where, (radiator/tank shields, carbon side panels, carbon rear fender, carbon air box, even has carbon seat pan). As I mentioned at the beginning this is the real deal and never offered to the general public in the U.S. before.