yeah no sh!ot, when it comes to certain twisties, i would argue to the grave that a SM handles better than a sporty. yes, most of it is about the rider. as i mentioned in my post though, the guys WERE squids.....so i don't take much pride in it, other than hopefully sitting on their "cool guy" ego. If you were to put taller, wider bars on your sporty, and take her to the gym to lose about 100 lbs, you would know what it feels like to own 90 degree corners and tight twisties. oh yeah, the road i was riding is one of the only fun motorcycle roads in the area, i see harleys on it all the time, and we all know they DON'T ride on "gravel ridden switchbacks". oh crap, i should have said that i don't like passing people on the inside because they usually panic, so i pass them on the outside of corners where i can see all the way through past the exit. i'm not in it to die, but they were holding me up at 80%. why are you on a SM forum if you would rather argue in favor of sporties?