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Stock sprockets. I really feel the gearing is perfect.
How are these guys getting the front wheel off the ground in 2nd. Is it I'm too fat or is it my poor technique. Only once have I gotten it up by stabbing the clutch and opening the throttle while cruising in 2nd. I'm not stunter but it would be nice to be able to do a decent wheelie. The only decent wheelie I've done I started in 1st and that just kind of spooks me. By the way I'm practically sitting on the rear fender when I do it. I'm about 200# with my gear on. Any help is appreciated.:bowdown:
 
get ready for a wheelie, get the bike in the 2nd gear comfort zone, and press your weight down on the bike.

...as this rebounds do your thing. (body emphasis)

....just my opinion.

lets hear more.....there has to be a smoother way!
I have to clutch 2nd, i can chop 1st but that can get a little hairy in my opinion. Cover your rear brake, ride to around 17-20 mph in 2nd pull in your clutch and blip the throttle should come up with ease especially if your around 200lb riding weight sitting back some.
 
On the gas...

I have to clutch 2nd, i can chop 1st but that can get a little hairy in my opinion. Cover your rear brake, ride to around 17-20 mph in 2nd pull in your clutch and blip the throttle should come up with ease especially if your around 200lb riding weight sitting back some.

I've been gassing it hard and not getting it up too much, one time I even hit the rev limiter on the clutch stab. Do you think I'm trying too hard and slipping the clutch. One time It seemed like the clutch slipped too much. :headscrat I can't believe you're just blipping the throttle. I've got to be doing something wrong. I never thought about preloading for a wheelie...I used to ride 450's in the dirt and never had to work so hard to get the tire off the ground. Thanks for your input. I'm going to experiment in a couple minutes here, I'll try your suggestions.
 
I never thought about preloading for a wheelie...I used to ride 450's in the dirt and never had to work so hard to get the tire off the ground.
LOL...I agree. I ride and race offroad dirtbikes. My WRX is my first supermoto bike (or street legal bike, for that matter). Getting the front end up on my KTM in the dirt is an easier matter. God bless the roll-on wheelie!
 
I never had to preload either guys.:headscrat (but it works for a standup wheelie , then I sit).
Ive had some bikes in my time too.

dear
Dr. Mil and Chief Schearrer,

If your bikes were not so strong with upgrades, was the 2nd gear wheelie easy for you?


How about this you tube distance wr250x wheelie guy too?
 
I never had to preload either guys.:headscrat (but it works for a standup wheelie , then I sit).
Ive had some bikes in my time too.

dear
Dr. Mil and Chief Schearrer,

If your bikes were not so strong with upgrades, was the 2nd gear wheelie easy for you?


How about this you tube distance wr250x wheelie guy too?
Man I dont know what you guys are doing or maybe im just really small im about 165lbs with my jacket helmet and boots on and could clutch 2nd gear with no problem when my bike was bone stock. I sit right in front of the strap on the seat fairly straight up and whammo front end in the air. Works so well for me i have even been able to loop one over on myself already.
 
Dude!

I agreee....Accept I found the biggest opening with the shortest length baffle and ran that. And I love that. Those other 3 haven't tried them yet.
Dude, I must have misunderstood what you meant by the one with the biggest opening with the shortest length baffle. I installed the least restrictive one this morning and by the time I got to work my right turn signal was melted. I considered that there wasn't any down turn after the plate but assumed that you had already pulled this off successfully and so I figured I was safe...appearantly not. :headshake

Learn from me...Don't do this. The exhaust needs to turn down after the end plate. So Kocoma where was my misunderstanding? Either you used the second least restrictive plate or your turn signals were modified. Well I guess it's time to do my tail light, turn signal, license plate mod. LOL
 
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Good to know, thanks for the warning. That seems strange to me- I'm running with the entire stock spark arrester removed, so there's no down turn anymore. I'm just wondering if you are having other issues that could cause that...just a thought.
 
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My pipe arrived Wednesday afternoon and I couldn't wait to install it...so I did it that night in the parking lot under a street light. If I had dropped anything, I would be waiting till morning to finish, but I took my time and it was a success. I even tried removing the entire EXUP system, including the motor/solenoid that mounts under the battery. That needs to stay- without it plugged into it's harness the check engine light will be on. Disconnected the battery and put the EXUP motor back after removing the cables. I think it's easier to pull the whole unit anyway, then remove the cables, then reinstall. It is very straight forward once you start turning screws. I don't think my neighbors appreciated me firing it up and taking a spin around the block at 10:30 on a school night, but hey that's life... :D

Now the good part. Boy does this bike sound mean as hell when it's opened up. I let it warm up after making sure the engine light was clear and gave it a little blip. It sounded like a big blip...if that makes any sense. :lol: No really, the Leo pipe sounds beautiful and no clips I've heard online come even close to replicating that. At a steady cruise in town I can hear the engine over the exhaust- very smooth and much quieter than cruising on the stock system, almost silent. No more fart-can-cruising. When you punch it from low revs heads will turn, then you'll be gone. On and off throttle is much, much smoother, due to removing the EXUP I believe. Getting through the gears is noticeably faster. I used to flog it all the time, now I have to be more careful and mellow acceleration feels like full throttle on the stocker. Sixth feels like it will pull up higher than it would before, but I haven't tested yet. Getting the front to pop off of speed bumps is no longer a challenge for me. Pics this afternoon when I can take a ride!
 
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BTW, I used the shortest instert that still has a bend, so no spark arrester screen. The bend seems to be enough to keep the turn signal safe. Feels like the exhaust passes just under it. After about 20 miles of on and off riding there are no signs of turn signal meltage here, so I suggest using that insert.
 
Cool!

BTW, I used the shortest instert that still has a bend, so no spark arrester screen. The bend seems to be enough to keep the turn signal safe. Feels like the exhaust passes just under it. After about 20 miles of on and off riding there are no signs of turn signal meltage here, so I suggest using that insert.
I'm glad you learned from me, I plan on contacting Leo Vince once I get pictures of my turn signal and ask them to either add a warning in their documentation or change the the design of the tip, or just delete those tips all together. I stick behind their quality and recommend the pipe just don't use the tip that has no downturn as long as you still have turn signals. :D
 
Dude, I must have misunderstood what you meant by the one with the biggest opening with the shortest length baffle. I installed the least restrictive one this morning and by the time I got to work my right turn signal was melted. I considered that there wasn't any down turn after the plate but assumed that you had already pulled this off successfully and so I figured I was safe...appearantly not. :headshake

Learn from me...Don't do this. The exhaust needs to turn down after the end plate. So Kocoma where was my misunderstanding? Either you used the second least restrictive plate or your turn signals were modified. Well I guess it's time to do my tail light, turn signal, license plate mod. LOL
I don't know why I didn't have this problem. I swear I have the biggest straight one in and no burnt turn signals. I will verify this tonight. I actually drove today. I know...what was i thinking right. :)
 
cool

Could you check it and let me know. Was it the baffle that had no exit snorkle at the back side. Also did you put the spark arrestor on it? Do you have stock turn signals in their stock location? And does your pipe end about 3 inches from the turn signal? I just want to know so when I contact Leo Vince I can better understand what went wrong. Thanks in advance. Mine came with 4 tips. Two that could be used with the spark arrestor, one long and one short. And two that couldn't be used with the spark arrestor due to the turned down exit tube at the back side of the end plate. I'm still thrilled with the pipe but I wish Leo would have a warning about using this tip. Thanks.

TJ
 
Could you check it and let me know. Was it the baffle that had no exit snorkle at the back side. Also did you put the spark arrestor on it? Do you have stock turn signals in their stock location? And does your pipe end about 3 inches from the turn signal? I just want to know so when I contact Leo Vince I can better understand what went wrong. Thanks in advance. Mine came with 4 tips. Two that could be used with the spark arrestor, one long and one short. And two that couldn't be used with the spark arrestor due to the turned down exit tube at the back side of the end plate. I'm still thrilled with the pipe but I wish Leo would have a warning about using this tip. Thanks.

TJ
I didn't look at the other inserts yet but I did find that the one I had was big but had the angle peice. I think ur right when u say I have the second biggest. Sorry about ur turn signal! I recommend the one I have! It's way better on the turn signals. So I hear.
 
How much was this pipe, and do any of you know if it will fit to the FMF Powerbomb header?
I bought it at the dyno fight event they had where they were giving a 10% discount. People have told me they don't usually have sales. With the discount I paid $404. As far as the fitment goes compare you'd have to compare the length of the fmf with the stocker and see if it mates up the same way. Or call FMF and ask if the FMF header would mate up with the stock mid pipe and muffler. If it would you have your answer. Good luck. Let us know what you find out.
 
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This pipe performs very well with the stock header. If you still have the stock exhaust, try the slip-on and go from there. If you're not satisfied you can always get a different header. Leo will probably make one eventually. I have a K&N and Leo slip-on- I don't have any need to further modifiy this engine...
 
Thanks guys, all of you have a been a big help. I am in PO DUNK NM and no one around here but me have this bike or anything like it. I am surrounded by Harleys. I have a friend with a 2009 KLX250s and now he wants to get rid of it to get WRX. There is no comparo between these 2 bikes. Again THX.
 
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