KTM 690R best 17" wheel choice

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Dalmatino

Discussion Starter · Jan 10, 2013

Hey guys, I'm getting a 2013 690R (SM no longer available in Canada) and want to set up a pair of 17" as a main set. I'll be using this thing mainly as a Street SM with an odd track day in mind. I have plenty experiance with sport bikes and street/track riding but I'm new to this whole SM thing (but not totaly unfamiliar with it) so I need some advice on what the best setups are and what works best on these bikes.

I would prefer to run tubless rims.
KTM Twins sells a set of wire tubless wheels...Any opinions on these. best option so far.
http://www.ktmtwins.com/ktm-690-enduro-supermoto-wheel-set

Is there any other KTM oem 17" mag wheels that might fit without to much work?

Marschesinis...beautifull, but a bit too rich for my blod...

Other options??

Any other 690 advice would be great.

Thanks

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wsmc831

· #2 · Jan 10, 2013

There aren't too many options as they need cush hubs. Oem smc wheels of a couple years are tubeless, march's, and I think there are a couple aftermarket wheel makes that have cush options.

just takes a bit of searching.

svracer01

· #3 · Jan 10, 2013

jcpakbikes.com sells alpinas that are tubeless.
if you dont care about tubeless then you can get wheels almost anywhere. talon is the only company that makes a cush drive hub like your OEM set up. buchanans spoke and rim (.com) sells excel blanks that they will drill to your specs for free then all you will need is spokes and you can use your hub. i believe you can also get just the alpina rim and spokes and use your hub and still be tubeless.
there is also a company out of japan that makes a tubeless kit that is about $200 to turn any spoked wheel tubeless

Dalmatino

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jan 10, 2013

Thanks for the input guys...

What would be better to run on the rear, 160 or 150 tire?

yuu

· #5 · Jan 10, 2013

Those ones on ktm-twins really look like the OEM set. It's nice that the price covers wheels rotors, cush drive, sprocket so they are ready to rock as soon as you skin em.

I've got an 08 Enduro with a SMC wheel set - from before KTM introduced the spokeless lined rims. I used the kit from Outext that Agosvracer01 mentioned. It does take a good bit of prep work, they want you to smooth off the spoke nipples, but it's worked well so far. Got a handfull of track days on that set up and pressures have held rock solid. Dropping the tubes saved me about 20 oz in front and 23 in the rear.

I'd expect to the KTM tubeless to be a bit heavier than my converted ones, but lighter than running tubes.

Zaph

· #6 · Jan 10, 2013

Just put the KTM Duke factory Marchesini's on! They are way lighter than the spoked SM wheels and they fit right up with no problems. I put them on my '07 SM, the wheels only cost $500 ea (USD) at cheapcycleparts.com.

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Dalmatino

Discussion Starter · #7 · Jan 10, 2013

Zaph said:
Just put the KTM Duke factory Marchesini's on! They are way lighter than the spoked SM wheels and they fit right up with no problems. I put them on my '07 SM, the wheels only cost $500 ea (USD) at cheapcycleparts.com.

Wow that looks sweet. Thats the best option for sure. Thanks I will check it out.

Dalmatino

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jan 10, 2013

Is the stock 690 rotor size edaquite enough or should I be looking at a larger diamiter one?

svracer01

· #9 · Jan 10, 2013

that stock rotor will launch you over the bars and into the back of whatever vehicle is in front of you if you get fierce with them. in other words...yes. they will do the job

Dalmatino

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jan 10, 2013

svracer01 said:
that stock rotor will launch you over the bars and into the back of whatever vehicle is in front of you if you get fierce with them. in other words...yes. they will do the job

Awesame, thanks

jej

· #11 · Jan 11, 2013

I just did this same conversion with a 2012 model. It's really as easy as everyone else has described. The only thing I'd add to it is you'll really want the shorter sidestand from an SMC, which I believe KTM Twins mentions on the wheel set page. If you want individual part numbers, in case you want to order from elsewhere, I can post 'em here if you want them.

Dalmatino

Discussion Starter · #12 · Jan 11, 2013

jej said:
I just did this same conversion with a 2012 model. It's really as easy as everyone else has described. The only thing I'd add to it is you'll really want the shorter sidestand from an SMC, which I believe KTM Twins mentions on the wheel set page. If you want individual part numbers, in case you want to order from elsewhere, I can post 'em here if you want them.

Thanks jej...already looked into it and I will be ordering few things from them.
Looks like Duke wheels are a no brainer especialy for the money. Damn, looks like buying this bike will be the cheap part :hammer:

Dalmatino

Discussion Starter · #13 · Jan 13, 2013

zaph and jej, couple more questions for you guys.

When you've ordered the wheels did you order the SM, Enduro or Duke outer spacers and did you go with aftermarket wheel bearings or oem? My thaughts are that I would order "Duke" wheels, bearings, inner spacer and coosh drive BUT the outer spacer and brake disks for "690R". Is this corect or does it matter? I guess if the spacing and axell length/diameter are same between the two than it realy doesnt matter.

Anything else I may need to know?

Also wondering if 250mm (10") suspension travel is going to be too much for agressive canyon carving. I do plan on reworking the forks and the shock in that derection but it still might be a lot.

Thanks guys

Zaph

· #14 · Jan 13, 2013

I went from SM spoked wheels to the Duke Marchesinis, so my conversion may be a bit different than yours. Head to this thread and have a look at the parts list. Also some info in there how to set your speedo to 17" wheels.

http://www.supermotojunkie.com/showthread.php?84183-08-690-E-convert

Other info here:

http://www.supermotojunkie.com/showthread.php?127252-Making-a-690-enduro-R-into-and-SM-Anyone

My own conversion thread here:

http://www.supermotojunkie.com/showthread.php?124757-2007-690-SM-wheels-on-an-enduro

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jej

· #15 · Jan 13, 2013 (Edited)

Dalmatino said:
zaph and jej, couple more questions for you guys.

When you've ordered the wheels did you order the SM, Enduro or Duke outer spacers and did you go with aftermarket wheel bearings or oem? My thaughts are that I would order "Duke" wheels, bearings, inner spacer and coosh drive BUT the outer spacer and brake disks for "690R". Is this corect or does it matter? I guess if the spacing and axell length/diameter are same between the two than it realy doesnt matter.

Anything else I may need to know?

Also wondering if 250mm (10") suspension travel is going to be too much for agressive canyon carving. I do plan on reworking the forks and the shock in that derection but it still might be a lot.

Thanks guys

The spacers are slightly tricky and I've seen some older misinformation about them. I don't know anything about the Duke, so everything I know is based on what I found when researching Enduro R versus SMC wheels. The spacers & cush drive for the rear wheel will be identical between the Enduro and SMC, so no problem there. However, the spacers for the front wheel are wider on an SMC compared to the Enduro R due to a slightly wider triple tree. Fortunately, you can either just order another set of Enduro spacers or just pop out your existing ones and use them on the SMC wheels.

The suspension travel hasn't been an issue at all for me in the twisties, personally. Speaking of suspension, it seems like a lot of people go with Comfort settings up front and Sport settings on the rear as a starting point.

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Dalmatino

Discussion Starter · #16 · Jan 13, 2013

Ok, that all makes sense...

Thanks jej,

wsmc831

· #17 · Jan 13, 2013

Duke cast wheel rotors are completely different than spoked wheelset rotors, and most importantly they have much different mounting configuration. You can get a rotor from an SMC for spoked front at 320mm and an adapter for the caliper, or try and find a 300mm with the right narrow mount, offset angle with a Duke cast front. Rear spoked used a 6 point mount and are 220mm, Duke is 5 point, 240 mm from SuperDuke and 905+ models. You'd probably need a 5 point 220mm if they are available.

Zaph

· #18 · Jan 14, 2013

I did have to buy Duke disks front and rear when I converted my SM spoked wheels.

HiPlainsGrifter

· #19 · May 2, 2013

I’m trying to swap the cast aluminum front and rear wheels from the 2008 KTM Duke onto my 2008 KTM SMC. I was wondering if these were the parts you guys used.

Duke front wheel (7560900104433) and rotor (61010060000)
Duke front spacer bushing 2X (54809012000)
Duke Rear wheel (7561000104433) and rear rotor (75609060000)
Plastic Screw Cover (75009001010)

My shop says that the front wheel doesn’t fit with these duke spacers – that the caliper is rubbing against the rotor. Do you know which spacer is required to get the front wheel to fit on the SMC?

Thanks,

-Cormac

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wsmc831

· #20 · May 2, 2013

I've seen it done on an smc, but don't remember the specifics of the spacers. Have you tried using the smc spacers?

It was on a thread either here or advrider, shouldn't be difficult to find the picture and user to ask.

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