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  • PC5 was backordered when I placed my order on 12/27. They expect new units to arrive on 1/3 and ship, hopefully, the same day.
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PowerCommander V
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Easy install, very clean software with on-the-fly stats. Bike finally feels like it has come to life, even with the DJ base map. I'm really looking forward to seeing what it can do after a full dyno tune!

DynoJet map for custom exhaust and intake: [23-015-502.pvm]
Rottweiler map: COMING SOON

Rexxer User Evo
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TL;DR - Bought User Evo, couldn't get it work for almost 3 months. Come to find out, the Rexxer unit is incompatible with some firmware versions on the bike (there are 2 or more different ones). Rexxer will continue working on supporting the bike in the future, but no ETA at the moment.

So I went ahead and bought the Rexxer User Evo for my 701. It was shipped very quickly and arrived in nice packaging. Connecting it to my computer was a breeze, it auto-updated as soon as I opened up the software. This is about as far as I've been able to get so far.

Based on the instructions and word from Rexxer directly, I should have been able to plug the unit into the bike and load the stock map. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be recognizing the ECU :headshake

I then went ahead and double-checked the ECU service port wiring vs the cable that was given to me with the Rexxer. It definitely doesn't look right.

ECU:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByRGu8diaz_OWTBsR0FxTEVnWGc/view?usp=sharing

Rexxer:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByRGu8diaz_OeHN6WmI4VUMtUEk/view?usp=sharing

As you can see, one of the wires doesn't even go anywhere. From my limited knowledge, I'd assume there would be a power, ground, and signal wire. All of them actually leading somewhere.

For those of you that modified the KTM PC5 wiring, can you post up some pictures or wiring diagrams of what you changed? If it uses the same port, I may be able to figure out if I need to change anything on my end to make it work.
 

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So I went ahead and bought the Rexxer User Evo for my 701. It was shipped very quickly and arrived in nice packaging. Connecting it to my computer was a breeze, it auto-updated as soon as I opened up the software. This is about as far as I've been able to get so far.

Based on the instructions and word from Rexxer directly, I should have been able to plug the unit into the bike and load the stock map. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be recognizing the ECU :headshake

I then went ahead and double-checked the ECU service port wiring vs the cable that was given to me with the Rexxer. It definitely doesn't look right.

ECU:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByRGu8diaz_OWTBsR0FxTEVnWGc/view?usp=sharing

Rexxer:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByRGu8diaz_OeHN6WmI4VUMtUEk/view?usp=sharing

As you can see, one of the wires doesn't even go anywhere. From my limited knowledge, I'd assume there would be a power, ground, and signal wire. All of them actually leading somewhere.

For those of you that modified the KTM PC5 wiring, can you post up some pictures or wiring diagrams of what you changed? If it uses the same port, I may be able to figure out if I need to change anything on my end to make it work.
Any update from Rexxer Support?
 

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Any update from Rexxer Support?
I'm still working with them. First run through the logs showed that my battery was a bit on the low side. I charged it up and let it trickle charge for a few hours after - still the same behavior. We continue troubleshooting tomorrow.
 

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Were you able to identify the issue with the harness?
Been busy with holiday stuff. I sent the unit and cable back to Rexxer so that they can figure out what's wrong. It was supposed to arrive today so I'll hear back from them on Monday most likely.
 

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Quick update...

After doing testing on my end, and Rexxer going through logs, we've come to the conclusion that I just got a faulty unit. A new one will be sent out to me next week (they're waiting on parts). In the meantime, I ordered up the new Rottweiler intake kit with underseat storage bag to complement the upcoming tune.

http://www.rottweilerperformance.com/701-husky-rottweiler-intake-system/
 

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Can't wait to see what you find.
DJ is dragging its feet with PCV release...
They really are! There's absolutely no reason why it should take almost a whole year to release a unit that's nearly identical to the KTM 690 Enduro/SMR.

I'm crossing my fingers that I'll have the replacement unit by this Friday. In the meantime, here are some pictures of the Rottweiler intake install to hold you guys over!

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByRGu8diaz_OOHF4NHVoclNKZlE

Quality: 10
Looks: 10
Fit: 4
Performance: ?

Notes for anyone who purchases this kit in the future:

1. The air sensor wire is just a tad bit too short so you'll have to route it near the back of the intake. Clipping it in with the intake installed is a huge pain.

2. The bracket uses the same mounts as the radiator shrouds and is really frustrating to install. Make sure to add the 2 extra plastic washers between the bracket and frame mount, otherwise your bolts will go in too far and you won't be able to use the shroud clips.

3. There is minimal maneuvering room for the intake near the rear of the bike. Check fit WITH the filter on to make sure that you can take it on/off, it doesn't rub on the gas tank, and that the seat will actually fit.

4. Can't say anything about performance yet but it did sound nice when I ran the bike to let the ECU adjust. Idle - can't tell a difference between stock, Throttle Blip - can definitely hear the bike finally breathing.
 

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They really are! There's absolutely no reason why it should take almost a whole year to release a unit that's nearly identical to the KTM 690 Enduro/SMR.

I'm crossing my fingers that I'll have the replacement unit by this Friday. In the meantime, here are some pictures of the Rottweiler intake install to hold you guys over!

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByRGu8diaz_OOHF4NHVoclNKZlE

Quality: 10
Looks: 10
Fit: 4
Performance: ?

Notes for anyone who purchases this kit in the future:

1. The air sensor wire is just a tad bit too short so you'll have to route it near the back of the intake. Clipping it in with the intake installed is a huge pain.

2. The bracket uses the same mounts as the radiator shrouds and is really frustrating to install. Make sure to add the 2 extra plastic washers between the bracket and frame mount, otherwise your bolts will go in too far and you won't be able to use the shroud clips.

3. There is minimal maneuvering room for the intake near the rear of the bike. Check fit WITH the filter on to make sure that you can take it on/off, it doesn't rub on the gas tank, and that the seat will actually fit.

4. Can't say anything about performance yet but it did sound nice when I ran the bike to let the ECU adjust. Idle - can't tell a difference between stock, Throttle Blip - can definitely hear the bike finally breathing.
Great write up. Thanks.
I was drooling just looking at that air cleaner kit. Trying to justify it over the Evo II K&N I have on my 690, and intend to fit to my 701 (if I pull the trigger)
Completely different approaches. I'd really like to know about performance differences (both should flow heaps more than the stocker!
 

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Great write up. Thanks.
I was drooling just looking at that air cleaner kit. Trying to justify it over the Evo II K&N I have on my 690, and intend to fit to my 701 (if I pull the trigger)
Completely different approaches. I'd really like to know about performance differences (both should flow heaps more than the stocker!
Based on the dyno graphs I've seen, the Rottweiler kit flows better up top and gives about 2hp more overall. We'll see for sure in a couple of weeks!
 

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Based on the dyno graphs I've seen, the Rottweiler kit flows better up top and gives about 2hp more overall. We'll see for sure in a couple of weeks!
2hp better than the stock filter?
I'm wondering how that compares to the Evo II open filter.
 

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2hp better than the stock filter?
I'm wondering how that compares to the Evo II open filter.
An open exhaust + evo II cover are good for ~10 HP on the low end to mid range. Rottweiler takes this to 12-13 HP, with greater top end. This is strictly based on dyno graphs posted here and by the Rottweiler guys.

Note: numbers include a tune
 

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An open exhaust + evo II cover are good for ~10 HP on the low end to mid range. Rottweiler takes this to 12-13 HP, with greater top end. This is strictly based on dyno graphs posted here and by the Rottweiler guys.

Note: numbers include a tune
Thanks- interesting info.
The "cover" is "Evo I".
"Evo II" is a pod style K&N, should flow plenty. But a very different approach to the Rottweiler.
Love the soft bag, that is available with the Rottweiler for storage in the space liberated by fitting the new filter.

I can fit my phone in the repositioned battery holder with the Evo II setup, and a lipo battery.
 

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Thanks- interesting info.
The "cover" is "Evo I".
"Evo II" is a pod style K&N, should flow plenty. But a very different approach to the Rottweiler.
Love the soft bag, that is available with the Rottweiler for storage in the space liberated by fitting the new filter.

I can fit my phone in the repositioned battery holder with the Evo II setup, and a lipo battery.
The big difference between the pod filter and Rottweiler is that there's no velocity stack. I'm curious how that affects power delivery compared to yours.

The storage bag is great! I was finally able to get rid of the annoying toolbag holder underneath the left radiator shroud and move the tools under the seat. Time will tell how well it holds up to the heat from the cylinder head.
 

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I have the pod filter installed but didn't notice any gain but I'm Still using the stock airbox bc i dont want to run too lean. Open airbox lid is sitting on the shelf waiting on pcV.
I think at that point the gains become diminishing returns...itd be easier for me to lose 10 lbs :-D
 

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If the current airfilter flows more air than is required, changing to a higher flow filter should do nothing, not even make it run lean. - Just theorizing here.

Often the best increases come from matched mods.

A more open pipe (one the factory wouldn't be "allowed" to fit)
A more open air filter (one that might not suit many owners due maintenance/noise)
A remamp to suit (including remapping for better fuel - that the factory couldn't relay on everyone using)

The factory's are pretty smart, easy gains are few and far between.

Losing weight, form the pilot, is a great idea. Aids acceleration and braking. But also, the heavier you are the harder you fall. My friend pointed out that we are all (friends in my age group) the heaviest we have ever been, and land "harder", with more momentum. He told me this when he had a broken collarbone and I was recovering from elbow surgery. I wish I were lighter. (I've given up a lot of sugar. Even fruit juice. Seen the insane amounts of sugar in some low fat yogurt? More than soda!)
 

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Rexxer has confirmed that there are multiple versions of the 701 firmware. There are some that work with their unit and some don't. I'm still waiting to hear back from them if mine is compatible.

On a side note, the PCV is finally released for the 701! I may order one... :lol:

EDIT: PCV + Map Switch ordered
 

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Rottweiler have confirmed that they'll have maps out soon. They're waiting on the PC5 to arrive so that they may begin testing, maps will come a couple of days after. I'll be sure to add it to first post once they do.
 

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PC5 arrived yesterday. Unfortunately, it didn't get delivered in time before I left for a vacation. I'm planning to do the install either Sunday or Monday night, and will do a write up then!
 

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PC5 arrived yesterday. Unfortunately, it didn't get delivered in time before I left for a vacation. I'm planning to do the install either Sunday or Monday night, and will do a write up then!
Rusky, 3 days don't make a vacation. So abort that plan and work on the 701, I'm quite sure everyone here would be happy. :anim_peep:
 
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