Help with Circle Wheelies!!!

[MikeSMNJ]

Hey guys, need any tips that could help me with my circles,dont understand i could pull them off with my 50 took time for that,but man i am having a hell of a time on my Drz, keep getting high sided off.i know i need my handbrake but i should be able to pull it off with out it ....i dont know anyone else suffer from this lol maybe my balls are gone

[Zarrell]

Ah yeah it's a pain learning, I'm having huge problems aswell Just started learning to ride the idle slow instead of using the throttle all the time, I'll have to see if it's geared enough to circle on idle though.

What gearing do you have?

[MikeSMNJ]

Stock at the moment ,i cant go super slow without it bucking and stalling, Flywheel? perhaps not sure,What i dont understand ,i used to pull circles off on my CR125 just getting it up to the ballance point ,rear brake it and keep blipin the throttle with a lil bit of lean it seamed like the bike just wanted to do it,this bike maybe the weight has me off ,thought it was where my pass pegs are located ,so i cut my rear fender thinking ill have beter placement but naaa....maybe putting to much thought and not enough seat time into it....Oh well im off to try some more ..

[Ryan Moore]

Hey guys, need any tips that could help me with my circles,dont understand i could pull them off with my 50 took time for that,but man i am having a hell of a time on my Drz, keep getting high sided off.i know i need my handbrake but i should be able to pull it off with out it ....i dont know anyone else suffer from this lol maybe my balls are gone

You don't need a handbrake for sit down circles, but for seat standers and other combos it defenetly helps. Gearing the bike lower will also help, but it can be done with clutch work. If you are getting tossed out of the circle to the high side, you need to keep the front wheel up higher during the rotation. To high and you will fall out low side, dab a foot and ride out, to low and you get tossed high side, and that gets ugly sometimes, lol. Also, you can use your handlebars to get you back in to the circle by turning them the opposite direction of your rotation, sounds wierd, but it helps the bike fall back into the circle. when I start to high side, I blip the throttle, turn the bars oppisite and pull in the clutch, and coast around another rotation. If you really want to get serieous, grab a smaller front spocket so the bike isn't chuggin on the idle. A heavy flyweel, or flyweel wieght helps with the slow stuff too. Hope that helps.

ohh yeah, don't forget to lean in!

[deuce808]

the thing that is throwing me off is the lean angle that the wr has when trying to get tight circles. i had big (60-70ft) cirles at one point. now that i want tight ones, it means way slower, way higher, and way the hell leaned over. guess only seat time will show the way. also i have to say once again, its nothing like a 50.....

[Zarrell]

Not o threadjack but I've just figured out how to ride my DRZ on idle, it's hard to get it to go completely by itself, only managed to roll like 5metres not touching the brake or throttle, otherwise I have to give it a little bit of gas now and then to keep it up.
Anyway, when I try to slow down, getting it up really high and using the rearbrake the bike goes slower until it wants to die, almost threw me over the bars the other day. Same when I was gonna try to scrape my luggadgerack, the bike slowed down a bit more than I expected when I was at like 11-12 o'clock, so I hit the brake without pullin the clutch and the engine died.

Sorry for the long post but this leads me to the question, is it possible to do circles on those low revs or do I have to work on my clutch control? I guess it's all about using the clutch but as it is now I can only use it if I start to highside or lose my balance, constantly working it is more than I can handle at the moment. Plus using the clutch means I'm almost coastering and coasters scare the shit outta me

hope the answer to this question helps you too, MikeSMNJ

[Ryan Moore]

the thing that is throwing me off is the lean angle that the wr has when trying to get tight circles. i had big (60-70ft) cirles at one point. now that i want tight ones, it means way slower, way higher, and way the hell leaned over. guess only seat time will show the way. also i have to say once again, its nothing like a 50.....

yeah, its high on the wrx, I busted my plate off doing sit down circles on mine, LOL. Keep practicing and you will figure it out, it just takes alot of time. If you start out doing good, then get worse, take a brake and work on something else. Then, the next ride, you will get better.

[solidjohnny]

Hint....turn your idle up and drag the brake. You pretty much need to be able to control the brake and gas so smoothly that you can keep the bike's height rock solid. You also want to be able to maintain a speed that is right above the point where it'll stall. I think its better to hold off on circles until you can do this. You'll crash a lot less.

For circles, take it in small steps. Try 1/4 circles at a time. Once you get used to it dipping in, go for 1/2 circles and get used to blipping the throttle to keep the bike going. Then so on.... Doing circles sort of feels like you're linking a bunch of 1/4 and 1/2 circles together. It's a constant switch between gas and brake. Each blip of the throttle is basically a 1/4 - 1/2 circle. Then you brake to keep from high-siding. It's gonna be choppy at first, but eventually you'll smooth it out, and it'll look like you're just doing continuous circles!

I noticed that after lots of practice my circle looks like a spiral at first. At first, my problem would be that i'd try to dip into a circle going too slow. Whenever i'd try to blip the throttle to keep it going, it would high side me out. Now I come in kinda fast and get the bike into a huge lean. Once it leans in, I hit the brakes to slow it down, which reduces the lean angle, and tighten the circle up. From there, its pretty much locked in. So now, when i blip the throttle to keep it going I'm leaned over enough so it won't high side me out.

Once you master throttle and brake control, I think the next biggest barrier is trusting your tires and lean that bitch in.

[chris 50]

Hint....turn your idle up and drag the brake. You pretty much need to be able to control the brake and gas so smoothly that you can keep the bike's height rock solid. You also want to be able to maintain a speed that is right above the point where it'll stall. I think its better to hold off on circles until you can do this. You'll crash a lot less.

For circles, take it in small steps. Try 1/4 circles at a time. Once you get used to it dipping in, go for 1/2 circles and get used to blipping the throttle to keep the bike going. Then so on.... Doing circles sort of feels like you're linking a bunch of 1/4 and 1/2 circles together. It's a constant switch between gas and brake. Each blip of the throttle is basically a 1/4 - 1/2 circle. Then you brake to keep from high-siding. It's gonna be choppy at first, but eventually you'll smooth it out, and it'll look like you're just doing continuous circles!

I noticed that after lots of practice my circle looks like a spiral at first. At first, my problem would be that i'd try to dip into a circle going too slow. Whenever i'd try to blip the throttle to keep it going, it would high side me out. Now I come in kinda fast and get the bike into a huge lean. Once it leans in, I hit the brakes to slow it down, which reduces the lean angle, and tighten the circle up. From there, its pretty much locked in. So now, when i blip the throttle to keep it going I'm leaned over enough so it won't high side me out.

Once you master throttle and brake control, I think the next biggest barrier is trusting your tires and lean that bitch in.

you are correct about trusting your tires.for the longest time it felt like i was gonna washout.