'08 SM610 power mod

[RocketF4i]

OK guys, I tried a search, but I didnt find a clear answer.

Got an '08 sm610 completely stock. From what I understand, the "power up" blocks the lambda sensor, and has a resistor that just plugs in and switches it to a different fuel map. Can this be done leaving an umodified factory can until the budget allows a slip on or full system? More importantly, can all of this be done by myself without taking the bike to a dealer? Some threads have said the dealer needs to remap with ibeat software. Why? I thought the whole point of the plug in resistor was to switch to a 2nd preprogrammed map? Or does this only change fuel map, and dealer needs to change ignition?

[MROCK]

I didn't know the power up kit was an issue with the 610's, only 450/510's.
Sorry I'm no help, hope someone chimes in for ya.

[lammyracer]

Just read the first "sticky" on this page, "610 mods..." there are pictures and everything...

[RocketF4i]

Thanks for the well intended reply, but I've read through that post and the answer to my question is not there.

Is this mod only changing the fuel map? Some others have suggested that the bike may still need to have the ignition curve adjusted by the dealer after installing this plug. Is that the case or not? And, lastly, what are the results of running this mod with a factory exhaust can?

[Fast1]

Thanks for the well intended reply, but I've read through that post and the answer to my question is not there.

Is this mod only changing the fuel map? Some others have suggested that the bike may still need to have the ignition curve adjusted by the dealer after installing this plug. Is that the case or not? And, lastly, what are the results of running this mod with a factory exhaust can?

The ingnition curve can not be adjusted unless you add a power commander and this isn't really needed.

With the mapping in "race mode" the fuel metering will be too rich with the stock plugged up cat-con exhaust. I wouldn't recommend it.

[fs427]

The ingnition curve can not be adjusted unless you add a power commander and this isn't really needed.

With the mapping in "race mode" the fuel metering will be too rich with the stock plugged up cat-con exhaust. I wouldn't recommend it.

Yes it can be adjusted you do not need a power commander you do however need the ibeat software or you can go to a Husky Dealer and they can map it for you with ibeat. I would not recommend doing the power up kit with out the exhaust. There is a thread on here however that shows you how to do the kit with a resistor form radio shack I believe 2.2k ohm. This will do the same has the lambda plug.

[restukey]

Even with a PowerCommander you might not be able to adjust the ignition curve. PowerCommander has that as a feature, but it isn't implemented on every bike.

[miccharlton]

fs427 speaks the truth ....just take it to your dealer who will remap
but you would be foolish to try this with a stock can ,the amount of backpreasure ,you would be creating a monster...a job is only worth doing ..if your doing it right

[miccharlton]

p.s. you will still need to purchase the lambda resistor by plug

[Fast1]

Yes it can be adjusted you do not need a power commander you do however need the ibeat software or you can go to a Husky Dealer and they can map it for you with ibeat. I would not recommend doing the power up kit with out the exhaust. There is a thread on here however that shows you how to do the kit with a resistor form radio shack I believe 2.2k ohm. This will do the same has the lambda plug.

The Ibeat software will not change the ignition mapping. You can set the TPS but you will not be able to adjust the ignition mapping thoughout the RPM curve. It may not even be possible with the power commander as mentioned.

[fs427]

The Ibeat software will not change the ignition mapping. You can set the TPS but you will not be able to adjust the ignition mapping thoughout the RPM curve. It may not even be possible with the power commander as mentioned.

I dont think so Im pretty sure they map it. I was told by a Husky dealer in NY that after I added the power up kit to bring it to him he would put it on the dyno and tune it. That doesnt sound like he is just setting TPS. Plus if you couldn't change the fuel map why would there even be a Power Commander made for it that stores maps???

[Fast1]

I dont think so Im pretty sure they map it. I was told by a Husky dealer in NY that after I added the power up kit to bring it to him he would put it on the dyno and tune it. That doesnt sound like he is just setting TPS. Plus if you couldn't change the fuel map why would there even be a Power Commander made for it that stores maps???

your dealer needs to learn what the Ibeat system really does. He hasn't a clue.

Changing the fuel map and timing map are two different things.

[macchiato]

So what was the solution?

My Husky is stalling at every other stop light, giving Husky's a bad name.

[PERT1905]

Got mine 2 weeks ago and it stalls everytime I blip the throttle if the RPM's are at idle

[macchiato]

It was so bad on the way home today, died at every light.

Does anyone have the fix for this?

Do I need a PC3r? For the record it was never this bad. This problem has progressed from a rare minor annoyance to a full fledge goat f*ck.

Did my lambda sensor get fouled? Oh yeah my oil icon is flashing again after 200miles from my 2nd service interval.

[ClintMD]

I removed the lamda sensor and installed the resistor before my slip-on arrived and I didn't notice any performance gain. Actually, it seemed just a little bit slower but that might have been because I was expecting a gain and didn't get one. The only difference that I noticed was that it was running richer (no deceleration pop).
Once the slip-on was installed there was an improvement but I never had the ECU reprogrammed so I'm not sure how much difference that makes. I was told by the dealer that the lambda sensor had to be in place in order to reprogram it using the ibeat system. I never confirmed this tho.

Also, I took it for a rare winter ride a while back and it was stalling a lot. I had to keep revving it to keep it running. I haven't taken it out since because I'm waiting for the weather to break but I hope it was just a one time deal. It never did it before.

[macchiato]

Maybe you can educate me on the subject?

Where did you get the resistor? Also where does it connect? Also where does the lamda plug in at?

If it continued to stall even after that was done, next I need to look into ECU controller.

Anyone out there has a Power Commander installed?

Maybe GP Cycles can help remedy this, after all they are the AMA Husky team, right?

I removed the lamda sensor and installed the resistor before my slip-on arrived and I didn't notice any performance gain. Actually, it seemed just a little bit slower but that might have been because I was expecting a gain and didn't get one. The only difference that I noticed was that it was running richer (no deceleration pop).
Once the slip-on was installed there was an improvement but I never had the ECU reprogrammed so I'm not sure how much difference that makes. I was told by the dealer that the lambda sensor had to be in place in order to reprogram it using the ibeat system. I never confirmed this tho.

Also, I took it for a rare winter ride a while back and it was stalling a lot. I had to keep revving it to keep it running. I haven't taken it out since because I'm waiting for the weather to break but I hope it was just a one time deal. It never did it before.

[fs427]

Maybe you can educate me on the subject?

Where did you get the resistor? Also where does it connect? Also where does the lamda plug in at?

If it continued to stall even after that was done, next I need to look into ECU controller.

Anyone out there has a Power Commander installed?

Maybe GP Cycles can help remedy this, after all they are the AMA Husky team, right?

I did this mod on Sunday. I added a Leo Vince slip on and the 2.2k ohm resistor from Radio Shack got a 5 pack for $.99. I soldered the resistor across the two wires as described in the post on here. All I can say is the difference in low end in the first three gears is way different pulls like a beast now. Power wheelies all the through third. Bike runs about the same idle RPM was higher and it was a little harder to get started.

Dont know what you did wrong but mine runs great

[miccharlton]

macchiato you dont need a power commander ,i dont know the solutions for just a slip on can , but can assure you if you install a full leo vince x3 , a lambda bi plug, get your husky dealer to remapp , and also to change the fuel reprogram to use only a higher ron fuel .your bike will b a different animal, you will experience a higher idle speed ,and starting from cold will b a bit harder,but they r the only issues, ....back to your story ....sounds like your experiencing a flash out at idle , say riding with open throttle then stopping, ur lambda is confusing the efi because not having it reprogramed , it will just throw more fuel thru the system,and not been able to burn it .....

[macchiato]

I didn't know about the ohm resistor at the time I installed the slip on. I just learned of it at the time of my first post on this thread. But, I'll look into it. My mid-pipe currently has a crack running around 3/4th the diameter of the pipe. But the stalling has been happening since I installed the slip on. Thanks for the assist.

I did this mod on Sunday. I added a Leo Vince slip on and the 2.2k ohm resistor from Radio Shack got a 5 pack for $.99. I soldered the resistor across the two wires as described in the post on here. All I can say is the difference in low end in the first three gears is way different pulls like a beast now. Power wheelies all the through third. Bike runs about the same idle RPM was higher and it was a little harder to get started.

Dont know what you did wrong but mine runs great

[macchiato]

Well I went with a slip on I'm fine with that. I think the problem in unrelated to the type of pipe. I pretty sure the O2 sensor is the crook here. But, I can bypass the O2 sensor and maybe the dealer can remap? We'll report back when I learn more. Thanks for the tips.

macchiato you dont need a power commander ,i dont know the solutions for just a slip on can , but can assure you if you install a full leo vince x3 , a lambda bi plug, get your husky dealer to remapp , and also to change the fuel reprogram to use only a higher ron fuel .your bike will b a different animal, you will experience a higher idle speed ,and starting from cold will b a bit harder,but they r the only issues, ....back to your story ....sounds like your experiencing a flash out at idle , say riding with open throttle then stopping, ur lambda is confusing the efi because not having it reprogramed , it will just throw more fuel thru the system,and not been able to burn it .....

[ClintMD]

Maybe you can educate me on the subject?

Where did you get the resistor? Also where does it connect? Also where does the lamda plug in at?

If it continued to stall even after that was done, next I need to look into ECU controller.

Anyone out there has a Power Commander installed?

Maybe GP Cycles can help remedy this, after all they are the AMA Husky team, right?

I purchased the resistor and the plug for the lamda sensor from the dealer. It was part of the "power up" kit, just with out the slip on. I purchased a L/V slip on seperately because the Arrow was on back order at the time. The resistor just plugs into the harness after you unplug the lamda sensor.

I ran this set up all summer last year and it never stalled. The only time I've had a stalling problem was the one time I took it out over the winter. I haven't brought it back out yet to see if it is still doing it. Hopefully it isn't (fingers crossed)