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    Default KTM 950 vs 990 SM

    I searched around for about 40 minutes and can't find any threads on the differences between the two bikes. I only found a 950 thread. Are these sweet machines out and who has one???
    If there are other recent threads on this please direct me and forgive my post.

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    The KTM 950SM is no longer made. 950=carbed 990=FI'd Same basic motor with different internals and heads/cams etc....totally different frames/suspension/brakes.

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    No more 950SM?!? Damn. They finally made what I want and I cant get it. Is the 990 more street than the 950 was? Anyone own one? The Superduke is too street for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Nazi View Post
    No more 950SM?!? Damn. They finally made what I want and I cant get it. Is the 990 more street than the 950 was? Anyone own one? The Superduke is too street for me.
    It's pretty much the exact same bike, except a few more cc's and FI. So it's also the same dirt/street mix of the 950.
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    Where do you live?

    The 990SM isn't available in the USA for 2008.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD33 View Post
    Where do you live?

    The 990SM isn't available in the USA for 2008.....
    Whoops... you're right. I was thinking Adventure for some reason, not SM. I don't believe there is a 990 SM for the US?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GP1K View Post
    It's pretty much the exact same bike, except a few more cc's and FI. So it's also the same dirt/street mix of the 950.

    GP1K......STHU. Dude you have no idea what you are talking about.

    THEY ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT BIKES. They use different, engines, cylinders, heads, forks, frames, subframes,rear shocks, triples are different as well...............EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT. Well they do share the same swingarm and some nuts and bolts but that does NOT make them the same bike.

    You need to do some research on what you say before you spout off info on a bike company you don't know anything about. Just stick to your jap stuff and keep to yourself. It really pisses me off when people say crap and they have no idea what they are talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tfunk View Post
    GP1K......STHU. Dude you have no idea what you are talking about.

    THEY ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT BIKES. They use different, engines, cylinders, heads, forks, frames, subframes,rear shocks, triples are different as well...............EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT. Well they do share the same swingarm and some nuts and bolts but that does NOT make them the same bike.

    You need to do some research on what you say before you spout off info on a bike company you don't know anything about. Just stick to your jap stuff and keep to yourself. It really pisses me off when people say crap and they have no idea what they are talking about.
    Chill out dude.

    The 950A, 950SM and SD are all very different bikes. Thihs guy was talking about the differences in a 950SM and a 990SM.

    The 990's share the motor from a SD, basically, with some revised suspension settings and frame geometry. The 990SMs are not US-bound for 08 or 09. Maybe in '10?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tfunk View Post
    GP1K......STHU. Dude you have no idea what you are talking about.

    THEY ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT BIKES. They use different, engines, cylinders, heads, forks, frames, subframes,rear shocks, triples are different as well...............EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT. Well they do share the same swingarm and some nuts and bolts but that does NOT make them the same bike.

    You need to do some research on what you say before you spout off info on a bike company you don't know anything about. Just stick to your jap stuff and keep to yourself. It really pisses me off when people say crap and they have no idea what they are talking about.
    Hey KTM elitist douche nozzle, did you miss my reply where I said MY BAD and I had confused the Adventure 950/990 vs the SM?

    You need to brush up on your reading comprehension skills before you go off all half-cocked at people who made a mistake and already admitted to it.

    Oh and just for fun, here's the bikes I was talking about, gosh, they looks SOOOOO different!





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    Thats enough name calling. Back to the topics please.
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    Talking 07 Ktm 950 SM-R with 3k miles $9k is good or high price?

    I'm getting back into KTMs

    Is this a good or bad price for this bike?

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    how many miles are on it?

    I've seen the standard 950sm's going on cycletrader for anywhere from 7500-9k
    some have 3-15k miles and are priced lower, some are still new w/0 miles left overs

    that one is a R, so it would go for a bit more.

    If it's got less than 5k miles on it it's a good deal.. also if it has aftermarket pipes, etc that helps sweeten the deal.

    I believe the SM's went out the door new at like 11,999 (maybe)
    and I think the SM-R's were more like 13,999-14,999

    but by the year end you could find a SM brand new for like 9999 and a SM-R for around 11k

    so if it's 9 grand and in good shape.. all the maintenence.. could be a good deal.
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    Red face 3k miles Full Leo Vince Exhast, Rizoma Grips & Mirrors!!

    Quote Originally Posted by sunofnun View Post
    how many miles are on it?

    I've seen the standard 950sm's going on cycletrader for anywhere from 7500-9k
    some have 3-15k miles and are priced lower, some are still new w/0 miles left overs

    that one is a R, so it would go for a bit more.

    If it's got less than 5k miles on it it's a good deal.. also if it has aftermarket pipes, etc that helps sweeten the deal.

    I believe the SM's went out the door new at like 11,999 (maybe)
    and I think the SM-R's were more like 13,999-14,999

    but by the year end you could find a SM brand new for like 9999 and a SM-R for around 11k

    so if it's 9 grand and in good shape.. all the maintenence.. could be a good deal.
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    I'll try to get if for $8500 since the Economy is BAD in California!

    Arnie just chopped off 22,000 jobs and reduced all State employees to $6.80 an hour!

    Thank you for the "KTM ECONOMICS" advice!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snarf View Post
    Chill out dude.

    The 950A, 950SM and SD are all very different bikes. Thihs guy was talking about the differences in a 950SM and a 990SM.

    The 990's share the motor from a SD, basically, with some revised suspension settings and frame geometry. The 990SMs are not US-bound for 08 or 09. Maybe in '10?
    Does the 950SM have alot more wheelie ability than the 690? What about straight away acceleration/
    Thanks.

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    Talking 950Sm for $7k with 1300 miles!!!

    1300 miles and that's cheap right?

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    Both good deals on a hell of a fun bike! SMR has smaller tank. Less miles between fill ups, but more narrow. SMR has stiffer suspension and looks better with orange frame. I LOVE my SM.
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    I believe you can still get a 950 Super Enduro. Get a set of 17" and you've got a Sumo. I had the opportunity to ride one at a KTM ride day. Those things would be a blast! Take a look at the one at the bottom of this http://www.supermotojunkie.com/showthread.php?t=77036
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    I just bought a new 09 Super Enduro and I can only say WOW this bike KICKS ASS !! I,ve been riding and racing for 38 yrs. now and this bike is the most fun I've had on two wheels !!! You will not be disappointed!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HP SWEDE View Post
    I just bought a new 09 Super Enduro and I can only say WOW this bike KICKS ASS !! I,ve been riding and racing for 38 yrs. now and this bike is the most fun I've had on two wheels !!! You will not be disappointed!!
    Do you have it set up as a motard?

    What are the advantages to doing a super enduro vs the SM?
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Banning View Post
    Do you have it set up as a motard?

    What are the advantages to doing a super enduro vs the SM?
    Well, if your only going to ride it on the street then an SM would be OK. Butttt, if you were to occasionally go for say a ride in big bend NF, TX or maybe the ALCON highway from say Seattle to Alaska, then the dirt setup would be worth having around.
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    Gotcha! That's what I thought you'd say.
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    seems like the 950 se with some spare sumo wheels/tires would be the ultimate swiss army knife of motorcycles....you never read a bad review on it....just RAVES....seems like if youre going to do dirt at all then this would be the way to go...hey...dont any sumo races have dirt and/or jumps?..if so i guess it would be more correct to say SE would be better than a dedicated sumo bike for all dirt tight motocross tracks...help...im CORNfused

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    The 990 SMR is f'n badass. PLEASE bring it to the US!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PouringSun View Post
    seems like the 950 se with some spare sumo wheels/tires would be the ultimate swiss army knife of motorcycles....you never read a bad review on it....just RAVES....seems like if youre going to do dirt at all then this would be the way to go...hey...dont any sumo races have dirt and/or jumps?..if so i guess it would be more correct to say SE would be better than a dedicated sumo bike for all dirt tight motocross tracks...help...im CORNfused
    If racing sumo is in the cards then I would NOT want anything to do with an SE. Anything that resembled an MX track would be a nightmare on a big SE. You could get around it, and I'm sure some could get around it rather well but a dedicated sumo(450) would eat it alive. If on a big road race course, the SE would be lots of fun. Probably not the best handling bike out there but it would be considerably faster than most sumos. Tighten the track up to something like a cart track and the SE would again be a hand full. But, for a street tard, with a little off road / fire road stuff thrown in, I think it would be a blast.
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