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    Hey guys its time to start this build i think and this thread will hopefully be a good center for discussion on it and a cesspool of ideas that will spawn one hell of a BRP i hope. sorry to all you droolers out there this build will be as i go and acquire parts and ideas along the way.

    First things first the patient will be an 05' xr650r i picked up converted and plated 75% decorked and barely enough wiring to call it legal.




    Now the plan....

    USD forks conversion

    RAD MFG hubs and excel wheels to replace the talons. red hubs and spoke nipples on black excels 5" in the rear (I will be selling the talon/excel combo 1000$ look for FS ad)

    RE-wound stock stator for 200ish watts ran through a mosfet reg/rec for DC power and BATT (reasons as follows)

    HID lighting from BUELL xb12r projectors in a custom made headlight housing i will be fabbing. Im thinking this will end up looking somethink like a transformer from the front lol

    GT15 TURBO looking for tripple digits on the ponies for this which will require some engine mods to be determined exactly what later. most likely carrillo rod and port polish with hot cams 1 i think as the turbo will make up for the top end.

    FUEL INJECTION via microsquirt but that will be wayyyyy down the road and most likely on the second variation of turbo kit. besides they are out of stock till at least aug.





    IT starts I have already procured the USD crf450r forks and tag triples w/ conversion bearing to make the triples plug and play to the xrr head.


    I have also procured the gt1544 to start fabing for that little beauty. I think i will be installing it towards the rear of the bike right at the beginning of the muffler as there is enough room and moves the weight farther back as the BRP is a bit nose heavy as it is.



    my first thoughts were to mount it as close to the head as possible for ease but the turbo i have still runs the gt12 inlet flange and not the t2 flange which would be perfect to fab a manifold for 1.5" runners right down its throat next to the left radiator. but alas that may end up in BRP-T 2.0



    So as you can see nothing is started yet she still runs strong the bike has a presumable 3000ish miles on her and looks like it very pristine waiting to be modded. For starters ill be doing the USD fork conversion while im doing more testing for the turbo cooling system and getting the rest of my required parts and pieces.

    So any ideas or suggestions shoot em out lets make this beast scream


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    any stock vehicle intercooler that the pressure runners are 7-9" long and no more than 2" thick that i can cut down and make an intercooler for.

    front axle w/ nut CRF450 06' or any year that will fit. hell if you have a front 21" wheel with it even better at the right price.

    gt12 turbo inlet flanges and exit flanges.... if not ill just make em itll give me an excuse to use the plasma cutter more

    and like i said any suggestions along the way.

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    Thats gonna be insane! Hope the next thread you start when this bike is done isnt about how this brp ripped both of your arms off!

    Gonna need videos when its done too
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    Thanks guys ya it should be fun once done.

    Ill be using a few of the inovations tommy_j used in his turbo 950SM seen in this thread.

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...=turbo+install

    and a lot of this will only be for revision 1.0 on this for the carb setup. Im going to atempt to use the stock carb for starters but we will see how far that goes

    things like the pito tube and on demand valve (2stroke reeds) should make it very streetable. I will however be using an intercooler as in the end i dont want to add too much weight after all is said and done.



    For progress i havnt started turning wrenchs yet but the plan is there this week. im hoping my wheels sell though itll let me order the new wheelset sooner.

    But for now the plan is to test a redesigned cooling system to allow for the intercooler to replace the left radiator. My plan is to add 1 or 2 spal 4" fan(s) running off a spal 195f relay kit making it self regulating on the right radiator. I will be blocking off the crossover lines for the dual radiator setup for now and running the fan off a switch for testing. If it works out in this stockish form i will go ahead and order one of the e-bay aluminum radiator kits, the china bay ones at 200$ for the set to help increase cooling ability with just one radiator. we shall see how this turns out before i continue designing the turbo system placment and routing.


    I need to see if i can run the fan off AC power for now or ill end up having to change that to DC sooner rather than later to allow the testing to commense.

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    Sounds excellent. Subscribed!
    A bit off topic, but do you mind me asking how much you picked up the bike for?
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    very nice cant wait to see turnout

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    I'm watching this thread for sure, I don't think I would ever do this to my XR, but watching yours will be a blast for sure. I do have one suggestion, if this is going to be your primary build thread, get a better camera than your cell phone. The pictures do not and will not give justice to the materials and build itself. I would film some of the steps and big ticket items, that would be fun for everyone to follow and be a part of. Good luck on this project, and I can't wait to see the finish product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MLMcap79 View Post
    Sounds excellent. Subscribed!
    A bit off topic, but do you mind me asking how much you picked up the bike for?
    3500 with dirt setup as well. for the condition year and dual sport setup it was worth it. although now that im changing half the suspension I can only hope some one wants to pick up the front wheel so i can replace it with the crf one and i can dual sport some fireroads after shes got the bugs worked out.

    Quote Originally Posted by tdogmason View Post
    I'm watching this thread for sure, I don't think I would ever do this to my XR, but watching yours will be a blast for sure. I do have one suggestion, if this is going to be your primary build thread, get a better camera than your cell phone. The pictures do not and will not give justice to the materials and build itself. I would film some of the steps and big ticket items, that would be fun for everyone to follow and be a part of. Good luck on this project, and I can't wait to see the finish product.

    Dont worry tdogmason i have every intention of taking as many pics as i can with my actual camera, i just wanted to start this as iv been putting it off but wanted to get it out there so maybe i can get some more ideas along the way. as well as getting it out there im looking for certain things if anyone has em laying around and wants to help out.

    although iv kinda been dragging feet on this as i still have my yz450 and theres riding to be done!! lol But i think that its going to sell soon and itll really boost funds toward this build and ill want a sumo back on the street at that point.

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    nice! i boosted my 250x and that fun while it lasted! cant wait to see another pressurized tard!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little squirt View Post
    nice! i boosted my 250x and that fun while it lasted! cant wait to see another pressurized tard!
    what happened to your boosted wr250x?
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    didnt have a reputable dyno center, plus it was my daily driver and i tend to get stuck in traffic periodically....wasnt the most practical setup for my situation....but it sure was fun!


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    holy shieeet! That was your bike?

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    Well im sure some think iv already fallen off the grid on this but im here just dragging my feet a bit between work and personal commitments. BUT i have finally ordered a few parts so the project can continue.

    first off is the Shindengen FH012AA mosfet reg/rec upgrade to go from current shunt type reg/rec's that draw battery power when not being powered and also degrade over time because of the constant grounding out of the power to regulate when your not using the power. in eccence a very inefficient setup but ok for most of our style setups, just not for mine as im looking for max electrical power and minimal loss. it can be read about in the following link.

    http://roadstercycle.com/Shindengen%...rade%20kit.htm

    And i also ordered my 16g magnet wire to rewire the stator in hopefully 3-phase A/C to get max current from the relatively small compared to other street bikes stator on the XRR.

    As well as the 1/2" plate i will be making the turbo flanges from.

    Next on the list will be tracking down the right sized SS pipe to go from stock header to the turbo. and then the aluminum piping as well.

    However as long as the potential buyer for my YZ450 comes through ill be going ahead and getting the RAD wheels on order as well, which has been a major slow down honestly in this project as i really want to get the USD fork conversion completed as one of the first things.

    But research and progress continues.

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    If you're going with showa forks then try and grab 05+
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    Quote Originally Posted by kan3 View Post
    If you're going with showa forks then try and grab 05+
    reason? and the ones i have are 06 not that id resell and get others if i didnt have 05+ lol.

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    By 05, all of the standard showa TC, that I know of, were using the larger redesigned base valves. Most also have the same caliper spacing now as they did then. If you didn't already have the forks, you may as well aim to buy the better years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kan3 View Post
    By 05, all of the standard showa TC, that I know of, were using the larger redesigned base valves. Most also have the same caliper spacing now as they did then. If you didn't already have the forks, you may as well aim to buy the better years.
    Thanks for looking out. But i feel most setups can be setup aftermarket to suit my needs even if i didnt have the newer year forks already. But im still debating on when to get the suspension redone. now or later?..... Might give F.B.I. a call and see what itll cost and turn around time and go from there. Everyone raves about after getting their suspension redone for sum duty and if im going to rock this bad boy for a while i want that feel too.

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    So this is the basic Y-configuration 3-phase A/C stator rewire im going to try as opposed to the standard 1-phase that most do. Supposedly im going to get more current and less voltage out of it, but im starting to wonder if the 16g wire is going to be too big now with only having 3 poles per phase which will net not enough voltage. Any electrical geniuses out there want to chime in before i find out for myself in a week or so?

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    update?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kowalski340 View Post
    update?
    Parts are pilling up..... not sure how much ill get done in the coming 3 weeks looks to be a hectic schedule for me at work and school so i shall continue ordering parts and pieces so when it really kicks off ill get some good headway.

    I have

    magnet wire for stator rewind
    DDM H3 HID's and buell xb12r projectors for the headlights
    Mosfet REG/REC
    1/2" 1018 steel plate for making the turbo flanges for the manifolds


    I have decided....

    To mount the turbo up towards the front of the bike left side right off the head like a true turbo maniflod design. I believe after i test to verify the single radiator will be enough that I will have plenty of room on the right to tuck the turbo next to the cylinder and have plenty of room for tubing and intercooler setup using my old cut down rx-7 stock intercooler. 5.5" long 2.5" deep and then whatever i cut it too width wise. this should also allow me to use any aftermarket muffler setup. all ill have to do is fab the midpipe from the turbo to muffler. I;l also have to remake the coolant overflow catch can as it will get in the way but not really a big deal.


    Found out....

    Microsquirt is available currently so it looks like ill start stock piling parts for the EFI now too after i order the microsquirt. getting the flywheel machined for the crank pickup. Im also going to attempt to run this bike with MAF instead of MAP as it will be easier for tunning adjustments and slight alterations but we will see I havent dug too deep into the microsquirts capability yet. I just know it will suport my needs one way or another.




    So all in all it is crawling forward just havent started cutting into it yet.

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    shaping up to be a tasty build, im watchin this one

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    so sick
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    you just got passed a dirtbike with slicks

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    going to be ordering my new wheels this weekend or monday whenever they are open. This will let me knock out the CRF USD conversion for the most part still sourcing the brake setup i want.

    but the Wheels will be RAD cush hub with red hubs and nipples on black excels running a 5" rear as i think im gonna need it on this one.

    Also might start testing my plasma cutter out and making the turbo flanges out of the 1/2" 1018 plate steel i picked up.

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    OK good news im being forced forward in this project as someone has bought my sumo setup! oh ya. ordered my new RAD cush drive setup looking forward to get them ill get pics when they get here. Red hubs and nips..... and to go along with that will be the red chain and going to be knocking out the USD conversion hopefully before they get here.

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    Turbo update!!!!!
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    LOL man i wish I had massive updates for ya right now. But with school and work i gotta sleep sometime even though theres nothing id rather do than slap this bad boy together. So just an informative update right now.

    just over a week ago i ordered my new wheel setup so that should hopefully be coming in soon and then ill really get into it to finish the crf USD swap to go with the wheels. Also just ordered the remaining parts for my brake setup to make her ridable at that time.

    I just realized riding season is running out so my plan right now is to get the bike rolling and finish some minor testing prior to ripping the bike apart for the turbo before it gets too cold out to ride in about 2 months. in that time ill order the rest of my parts hopefully for the turbo kit and get everything lined up ready for a weekend in the garage to get it all mounted welded plumbed.

    So nedless to say right now im using as many spare parts as i can right now only buying what i need if i have to till shes operational and testing is done on the cooling system.

    For now im going to practice my stator rewinding capabilities on the open poles on my stock stator creating a second circuit i will run on DC with parts i have laying around to run my fan and start playing with the HID lighting setup. AFTER the testing it may get rewound entirely to do my full DC rewire to the bike THEN ill start on the EFI setup and a second stator for 3-phase stator rewiring.



    So lots of plans parts still piling up hopefully ill get forward progress pics in a week im hoping.

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    Have you seen this?





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    ^ no?

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    yes more info on thumpertalk. Hes a swede and not much info out there on it. there are a few versions and internet word was it would run 100hp for a while with welded crank and lower compression then 120 it started flatening lower crank bearings. His goal last i heard was 150 and was working with a company to get a custom bearing made that wont destroy it self at those HP figures.

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    Wow no kidding? 120hp is quite a bit for a 300 pound bike!

    I was thinking about this today as I worked on my bike. I wonder if a drawthrough setup with the turbo where the carb sits would work. I know there are drawbacks to drawthrough, I just wonder if it would actually spool well, and fuel well. I know that usually blowthrough needs to have a pressure reservoir to even pulses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by proz07 View Post
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    LOOKING FOR!!!! PM me on any of this!

    any stock vehicle intercooler that the pressure runners are 7-9" long and no more than 2" thick that i can cut down and make an intercooler for.
    dont have one for you but look at subaru WRX top mounts. they are very wide and short. high quality oem pieces with strong end tanks. also I believe saab ones are fairly small but they kinda suck and some have plastic end tanks which does you no good for modding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonic reducer View Post
    dont have one for you but look at subaru WRX top mounts. they are very wide and short. high quality oem pieces with strong end tanks. also I believe saab ones are fairly small but they kinda suck and some have plastic end tanks which does you no good for modding.
    well actually the stock RX-7 one i had also had plastic end tanks but instead of un crimping it i tried to cut them off with my bandsaw..... ended up putting off the sealing plate too. but i was interested in subie ones i just need to get some more dimensions. Oh and ill be fabing my own endtanks and cutting it down to size. the joys of having your own TIG welder


    And Ill have an update here in a day or two for ya guys out there wondering when shes gonna get forward movement.

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    Heres a few of the parts i got in theres more and the rest of these all over right now but heres the major ones.

    And my new mascot for the BRP....



    Here is the QTM cast radial brembo with bracket.



    And heres the beautiful machining they do to make the caliper fit.... but its not enough for spoked rims so i will have to do a bit more.



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    Quote Originally Posted by proz07 View Post
    Heres a few of the parts i got in theres more and the rest of these all over right now but heres the major ones.

    And my new mascot for the BRP....



    Here is the QTM cast radial brembo with bracket.



    And heres the beautiful machining they do to make the caliper fit.... but its not enough for spoked rims so i will have to do a bit more.



    z
    I have the same caliper... I was going to machine alittle more also, but when I removed the pistons to check the thickness it was already pretty thin so I couldnt use the caliper... so, I would say check it before you chop on it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalworxs View Post
    I have the same caliper... I was going to machine alittle more also, but when I removed the pistons to check the thickness it was already pretty thin so I couldnt use the caliper... so, I would say check it before you chop on it...
    Man im starting to think the same thing right now.... others have used it shaving it down with good results on spoke type rims... i can say QTM said it WONT work on spokes so i quess it might be a 300$ i told ya so. I really dont want to spend an aditional 2-300$ on a billet caliper that will work if i can sell this one. I mean i really dont need anything more than this its just a street bike.

    I plan on pulling the pistons and checking as well. How much thickness did you have left? Also any suggetions on getting the pistons out short of adding fluid.... maybe a shot of compressed air?

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    Quote Originally Posted by proz07 View Post
    Man im starting to think the same thing right now.... others have used it shaving it down with good results on spoke type rims... i can say QTM said it WONT work on spokes so i quess it might be a 300$ i told ya so. I really dont want to spend an aditional 2-300$ on a billet caliper that will work if i can sell this one. I mean i really dont need anything more than this its just a street bike.

    I plan on pulling the pistons and checking as well. How much thickness did you have left? Also any suggetions on getting the pistons out short of adding fluid.... maybe a shot of compressed air?

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    I never machined it more. I thought it was too thin from them milling it... I just used a little shot of air to get the pistons out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalworxs View Post
    I never machined it more. I thought it was too thin from them milling it... I just used a little shot of air to get the pistons out...
    OK since we are talking about it I temp threw it together so everything is snugged down. Looks like it actually will work however with just a touch more shaving in the area between the pistons where its closest to the spokes, maybe 1/16" and it should be money. that's the thicker part of the casting so i have a bit more material to play with i believe there is enough material as long as I do it slow and stead should turn out perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by proz07 View Post
    OK since we are talking about it I temp threw it together so everything is snugged down. Looks like it actually will work however with just a touch more shaving in the area between the pistons where its closest to the spokes, maybe 1/16" and it should be money. that's the thicker part of the casting so i have a bit more material to play with i believe there is enough material as long as I do it slow and stead should turn out perfect.

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    right on, it was way off on my wheel, I hope it works for ya

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    being that issue looks like its fixable.... I also got a chance to play with the rear wheel as well. It's a wide tire thats for sure but it will fit after i adjust the spokes a little. Fasterusa said they dished the rims so they dont have chain rub. Well ya they do but not so it will fit in the swingarm as well. it probably wouldnt be an issue with like a 4.25 but with the 5" that im using and the super wide BT-016 160 its rather snug and dished this way rubs the swingarm but plenty of space on the chain side. Sooo i will adjust the spokes back the other way so it will fit in the swingarm and just clear the chain. its going to be tight but should look awesome and perform wiht the HP goals on this bike.

    rotor going on with new hardware.


    sprocket and cush drive.


    brake side rub


    chain side space


    Also started disassembling the front end for the CRFUSD swap and front wheel install.

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    So here's the USD fork conversion with a fleabay 06 CRF fork and triple setup i picked up and the conversion is accomplished via an evolution suspension conversion bearing as seen in the following pic. It comes with as far as i can tell the machined race a custom smaller bearing, 2 different sized washers, and a dust seal.

    so near as i could tell with what worked and didnt the kit comes with extra as it is used for the XRL usd conversion as well you just need two of them one top and one bottom. so the dust seal is for the bottom i reused the CRF top dust seal. And i only used the thicker washer on top of the bearing to get the space right to use the dust seal, i can only assume the other washer and dust seal are to do the XRL lower bearing conversion.



    the parts not used



    race installed



    bearing then thick washer, notice it gives enough room for the dust seal to actually be useful.



    now the seal and lower triple nut.



    and then upper triple clamp and forks.



    This is the simplest form of this conversion i think as all it is is swapping out one bearing unless you go anal and do every bearing and new parts but I dont buy new unless its toast. So cost of the CRF triples and forks you source then 60$ for the conversion bearing 120$ if doing an XRL. pretty cheap if you ask me.

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    Z, I don't know if you have stated above, but are you going to Brace the Rear End when you get to that part of the build. I am getting ready to tackle this and was wondering what you had in mind. As of now, I am going to make a support alot like the ones I've seen on the Web, bolts to the Sub Frame and then bolts to the Tail. I would like to make something that had a Tag Support as well. I didn't know if I should make two and hook a brother up, or if you had a better idea or if you even had thought about it yet. It is one thing that drives me crazy about the bike and street duty, she flopps around like a dead fish and looks like Shit. T
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdogmason View Post
    Z, I don't know if you have stated above, but are you going to Brace the Rear End when you get to that part of the build. I am getting ready to tackle this and was wondering what you had in mind. As of now, I am going to make a support alot like the ones I've seen on the Web, bolts to the Sub Frame and then bolts to the Tail. I would like to make something that had a Tag Support as well. I didn't know if I should make two and hook a brother up, or if you had a better idea or if you even had thought about it yet. It is one thing that drives me crazy about the bike and street duty, she flopps around like a dead fish and looks like Shit. T
    I think i know what your talking about, the cargo support type brackets that bolt to the back of the subframe right? i have been thinking about it eventually as id like to add a cargo rack too for the weekend trips so im open to the idea, but I also have my own TIG welder, plasma, yada yada for making it out of aluminum. what were your ideas for it, material and so on maybe we can come up with a sweet setup to make together.

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    I have access to a full Machine Shop, so we can do whatever we can creativley come up with. I was going to use metal and then paint Flat Black, but Aluminium would be much less weight. I did see on Ebay the other day a Rack for the 650R, but it wasn't much of a Rear Tail Support just really a rack that bolted into the SubFrame. I'll start kicking it around and let you know if I make any progress, I figure you have enough Fab Work to last a few months on your project, but if you spring a good idea let me know. T
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    ya sounds good, iv seen a few decent ones ill see if i can find some pics.

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    And got a bit more work done on the pig. Front wheel installed and test fitting of the brembo cast 4 piston caliper that is not usable on spoke wheels....INSTALLED!

    wheel installed bracket on



    heres how i started checking where the spokes were hitting.



    and the finished sanded down caliper that does not hit the spokes.



    And on once sanded with some 1000+ grit whatever was laying around you can barely tell.



    And here it is installed and rotating. and as you can see started venturing into the wiring mess from the PO so it got to the point i just started cutting and slashing it out as ill be starting over on it.



    Now I need to order a few parts.

    1/2" master from a quad kfx or the like as it has an external brake switch not the junk pressure switches.
    fuse box and relays probably a painless kit as it will make wiring super easy.
    and numberouse little OEM bolts that i dont have.... stupid things are expensive!!


    and all of this couldnt be accomplished with out my shop help

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    So i was able to pike up a spoke wrench today and turned the spokes 1 turn to get the desired effect, unfortunately once i through the straight edge on the sprocket turns out i only needed it turned 1/4 turn to get dead nut in between the chain and sprocket.



    and once it was all adjusted and aligned there is literally enough room for a piece of paper on either side! now this should be the largest tire that will end up back there so it shouldnt be an issue i do expect minor chain rub but nothing to worry about and nothing on the rim.



    Now i bought a 120 link chain so it obviously needed shortening so for anyone thats never done it heres how without a chain breaker but its the same principle. First grind down one rivet head like so.



    Then a punch and a vice setup to press the pin out like so.



    and coming out.



    and one shortened chain.



    Now with the wheel on and the chain shortened the stock XRR chain guid will not work as it will hit the rim. so after cutting down the guide some people use a chain roller and i may eventually but for now its on the cheap using the stock slider block with one bolt and a pin through a drilled hole to keep it from rotating.

    how I cut it.



    Where the pin is installed.



    And installed on the bike with my new chain! shitty part is i ordered a clip style and received a rivet style. so now i am waiting for the clip style to come in. the chain is a clored EK 520MVXZ this chain is super WIDE BTW it seems i feel th need to get everything to work with the widest stuff so later on it will only have more room. lol For anyone wondering the color looks painted on so we will see how long it lasts. just wanted a little different and more accents. Im sure the color will stay on the main body so it should look decent for quite some time.



    Hoping to get more done soon time will tell.

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    Keep going!

    I will love the final result

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